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- From: slider
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- Subject: A3000T EXTERNAL SCSI IS REAL END IF U HAVE BOTH
- Date: 27 Jan 1996 16:32:21 GMT
- Organization: Jay Miner........Father of great things and a true engineering visionary...he is sorely missed around the world
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- OK on the A3000T at least which I assume goes for the A3000 as well (same controller setup)
- Looking directly at the service manual schematics the real and only end of the SCSI chain
- if you have both internal and external devices is the last device on the external buss.
- Now before anyone says rubbish let me explain and it's very simple and easy to understand
- if you look at the actual schematics of the A3000 or T
- The scsi buss coming off the controller is split but not in a Y fashion it's a straight
- line with the first branch off it going to the internal scsi connector and further down
- the buss is the branch to the external connector. For proper termination if you have
- external and internal devices, only the last external device should be terminated.
- Also if you have pass thru devices externally (has 2 connectors) open them up and make
- sure the connectors are inline and not parralel (what I mean is that the ribbon is set up so
- it goes from 1 connector only to device then from device only to second connector)
- If you have a parralel pass thru meaning (cable comes in 1 connector then goes to other
- connector and passes on to device) then you should place that device at the end of the
- chain.
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- My setup: And I have never (not infrequently) but never had problems which according to
- some I should as I use just about every troublesome type device on the SCSI
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- A3000T all latest chips 07-ramsey, 11-buster, 04-DMAC
- WD33C93-A SCSI chip
- Internal devices: Micropolis 1.2Gig HD and Chinon 435 CD-ROM (none are terminated)
- External devices: Apple CD-300 CD-ROM, Unisys Viper Tape streamer Unit, Syquest 270Mb removable
- Syquest is last in chain so it is terminated with an active terminator pack connected to
- the pass thru connector on the device.
- Also note: A lot of 3000's had a diode put in backwards which provides the terminator power on the external
- BUSS. Mine has this, no prob. I have 1 external device (the Apple CD-300) providing term power
- via it's jumper (A lot of SCSI devices have the option of providing termination power)
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- So long and short (note Commodore oversimplified their User Manual trying to keep users from not terminating
- their scsi buss by wrongly stating there are 2 scsi buss's in an A3000)
- Long and short is that the A3000 does follow SCSI spec, has only one chain with the external chain
- being the end of the SCSI buss. If you only have Internal devices no prob, just terminate the last device
- on the internal BUSS. Do not use Y cable setups internally where the controller is actually in the middle of
- the internal chain. If you have it set this way just pull the cable and put 1 end on the controller and the other
- to your internal devices (assuming you have more than 1) If the cable is not long enough you can buy one
- really cheap at most electronic stores, all you need is a 3 connector 50pin straight thru cable (the 3 connectors are
- 50pin IDS type) and that's it.
- laterzzzz
- James Vigliotti
- slider@ccnet.com
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